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's fascinating to me that both timothy mcveigh and nelson mandela used the same poem, evictus, as their theme, and white working class guy making common cause with those below him rather than, you know, and rather than turning them into the enemy. >> yeah, i mean, it's the thomas frank, what's the matter with kansas idea that you quote in the book, which is this argument, you know, you're hating the wrong people basically, like, instead of hating corporate powers that shifted overseas and forgot about you and make no amends, you hate the people below you, hate women, black people, hate the people you perceive stole your job. >> host: that's what thomas frank says as well. i have great respect for the argument as well because i think that there's a distraction going on often with these. >> host: the chapter is about the rampage shooter and what we get wrong about the shooter, and you reconceive who the rampage shooter is. talk about that a little bit. >> guest: the rampage shooter -- the school shooter, i have a chapter on guys who go postal. >> host: not them, not them. that's different. the
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